Descendants of William TOMS

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Generation No. 1

1. WILLIAM1 TOMS (Father John b. Abt. 1761) was born Abt. 1788 in Cardinham, Cornwall, England, and died Aft. August 1824. He married MARY AUSTEN 4 December 1813 in St. Winnow. She was born Abt. 1793 in Cardinham, Cornwall, England?, and died Aft. August 1824.

Notes for WILLIAM TOMS:

Source Information: Batch number: P002002 from www.familysearch.org

Children of WILLIAM TOMS and MARY AUSTEN are:

i. GRACE2 TOMS, b. Bef. 12 May 1813, Cardinham, Cornwall, England.

2. ii. JOHN TOMS, b. Bef. 22 June 1815, Cardinham, Cornwall, England; d. Aft. 1886, East Stonehouse, Devon?, Cornwall, England.

iii. THOMAS TOMS, b. Bef. 12 October 1817, Cardinham, Cornwall, England.

iv. RICHARD TOMS, b. Bef. 18 July 1819, Cardinham, Cornwall, England.

v. BETSEY TOMS, b. Bef. 23 September 1821, Cardinham, Cornwall, England.

vi. JAMES TOMS, b. Bef. 15 August 1824, Cardinham, Cornwall, England.

 

Generation No. 2

2. JOHN2 TOMS (WILLIAM1)1 was born Bef. 22 June 1815 in Cardinham, Cornwall, England2, and died Aft. 1886 in East Stonehouse, Devon?, Cornwall, England. He married MARY ANN CHAPMAN 15 October 1836 in Lanhydrock, Cornwall, England, daughter of RICHARD CHAPMAN and HONOR. She was born Abt. January 1817 in Blisland, Cornwall, England3, and died Bef. 1881 in Cornwall, England?.

Notes for JOHN TOMS:

Birth info from 1871 and 1881 Cornish Census, St Cleer Parish 6, 208.

John Toms died after 1886 because he was at Richard's wedding to Annie Roskilly Meech.

1881 Census - Dwelling: Railway Terrace

Census Place: St Cleer, Cornwall, England

Source: FHL Film 1341548 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2285 Folio 103 Page 35

Here also lived Mary GRIGG, Servant, Widow, age 53 born in Liskeard, Cornwall, England

and grandson Joseph R. Toms born in St Cleer - CON St Cleer

[9 months old in 1871 Census. Listed as "G-son/Scholar" in 1881 Census.]

 

More About JOHN TOMS:

Occupation: Abt. 1886, Miner

Notes for MARY ANN CHAPMAN:

Husband John is listed as a widower on the 1881 Cornish Census.

A grandson, Joseph Toms was born 1871 in St. Cleer and listed with grandfather John on the 1871 and 1881 Cornish Census.

Children of JOHN TOMS and MARY CHAPMAN are:

i. GRACE A.3 TOMS, b. 1851, Lanlivery, St Cleer parish, Cornwall, England.

ii. JOHN TOMS, b. 1853, Lanlivery, St Cleer parish, Cornwall, England.

iii. WILLIAM H. TOMS, b. 1856, Lanlivery, St Cleer parish, Cornwall, England.

3. iv. RICHARD TOMS, b. 26 April 1862, Railway Terrace, St. Cleer, St. Cleer Parish, Cornwall, England; d. 26 August 1905, Heath Park, St. Cleer, Cornwall, England.

 

Generation No. 3

3. RICHARD3 TOMS (JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 26 April 1862 in Railway Terrace, St. Cleer, St. Cleer Parish, Cornwall, England4, and died Bet. 26 August 1905 in Heath Park, St. Cleer, Cornwall, England. He married ANNIE ROSKILLY MEECH 29 October 1886 in East Stonehouse, County of Devon, Cornwall, England5, daughter of CHARLES MEECH and SUSAN ROSKILLY. She was born 7 October 1866 in Caglenna, Duloe, Cornwall, England6, and died 22 September 1935 in Virginia County, MN, USA7.

More About RICHARD TOMS:

Occupation: Abt. 1886, Miner

Residence: Bet. 26 April 1862 - 13 April 1896, Railway Terrace, St. Cleer, Liskeard, CON

Notes for ANNIE ROSKILLY MEECH:

b. Duloe, Cornwall, England d. at 68 yrs, 11 months and 15 days. M. ca. 1888

(death cert. #13983 [or 33?], reg. District no. 68-87, book 2, rec'd Oct 3, 1935) Residence was 3I Higgins Location, - St. Louis county, Franklin village - in Virginia, MN.)

Info on residence from St. Cleer Census on FHL film 1341548 ref: RG11 piece 2285 folio 106 page 41.

 

More About ANNIE ROSKILLY MEECH:

Residence: 1896, Railway Terrace, St. Cleer, Liskeard, CON

Children of RICHARD TOMS and ANNIE MEECH are:

i. EDITHE M.4 TOMS, b. 21 January 1889, Cornwall, England; d. 23 June 1891, Cornwall, England.

4. ii. LILIAN WINIFRED "WIN" TOMS, b. 10 June 1890, Cornwall; d. Abt. January 1967, Mississauga (formerly Port Credit)?, Ontario, Canada.

5. iii. FLORENCE "FLO" GERTRUDE TOMS, b. 13 April 1896, St. Cleer, Cornwall, England; d. 19 September 1951, Detroit, Michigan, USA.

iv. STANLEY TOMS, b. 26 April 1899, Cornwall; d. Aft. 1912, Virginia County, MN, USA?.

More About STANLEY TOMS:

Adoption: Abt. 12 March 1909, by stepdad Samuel Trebilcock

v. LEONARD TOMS, b. 23 November 1901, Cornwall, England; d. 5 June 1933, Virginia County?, MN, USA; m. VERNA ?; b. Virginia County, MN?, USA; d. Virginia County, MN?, USA.

Notes for LEONARD TOMS:

Leonard nee Toms aka Trebilcock (stepfather Samuel Trebilcock).

Killed in motorcycle accident - at 33 yrs. per his sister's Bible.

He and Verna had no children.

More About LEONARD TOMS:

Adoption: Abt. 12 March 1909, by stepdad Samuel Trebilcock

More About VERNA ?:

Adoption: Aft. 12 March 1909, by stepdad Samuel Trebilcock

6. vi. HILDA M. TOMS, b. 4 December 1902, Cornwall, England; d. 27 January 1925, Virginia County, MN, USA.

vii. DOROTHY TOMS, b. October 1904, Cornwall, England; d. July 1914, Virginia County, MN, USA.

Notes for DOROTHY TOMS:

Dorothy was the youngest Toms/Trebilcock. Born 1904 [1906?]. Alfred [Alf?] Trebilcock was born 10/24/1909. The loggers used sled runners to haul logs in winter and the kids used to catch rides. Dorothy fell under the runners and died in 1914 in Minnesota.

More About DOROTHY TOMS:

Adoption: Abt. 12 March 1909, by stepdad Samuel Trebilcock

Emigration: Abt. 1912, North America, settled in MN, USA.

 

Generation No. 4

4. LILIAN WINIFRED "WIN"4 TOMS (RICHARD3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 10 June 1890 in Cornwall, and died Abt. January 1967 in Mississauga (formerly Port Credit)?, Ontario, Canada. She married WILFRED STANLEY "STAN" JOHNS 20 July 1910 in Tremar Coombe, St. Cleer, District of Liskeard, County of Cronwall, son of SAMUEL JOHNS and MARY ?. He was born 24 April 1887 in St. Cleer, Cornwall, England, and died 29 June 1963 in Mississauga (formerly Port Credit)?, Ontario, Canada.

Notes for LILIAN WINIFRED "WIN" TOMS:

In July 1999, my cousin Ann Miller Paterson writes: "My grandfather, Stan Johns came to Canada some time prior to 1909 looking for work (I have a membership Certificate from the 'Independent Order of Odd Fellows' dated May 1909 at Cobalt, Ontario.

He went back to England and married my grandmother and brought her to Giroux Lake, Cobalt, Ontario.

They moved to Timmins, Ont. Were they lived until 1952. When my Mom and Dad moved to Scarbourough, Ont. (a subburb of Toronto) my grandparents moved with us. In 1956 we moved to Port Credit, Ontario (now known as Mississaauga."

The following is derived from a Form A513X (S.19821) a Certified to be a true copy of an entry in the certified copy of a register of Marriages in the Registration District of Liskeard. Given at the General Register Office, Somerset House, Londen, und the Seal of the said Office, the 24th day of October 1963. Top: Application Number P.A.S. 114256/63/F Bottom: MX 013609:

"1910 Marriage solemnized at Wesleyan Reform Chapel, Tremar Coombe, St. Cleer in the District of Liskeard in the County of Cornwall, Columns No. 115. When Married. Twentieth July 1910.

Name and Surname. Wilfred Stanley JOHNS, 23 years, bachelor, tin miner. Residence at the time of Marriage. Tremar Coombe, St. Cleer. Father's Name and Surname. Samuel James JOHNS, deceased, Rank or Profession of Father. Mine Agent.

Name and Surname. Lilian Winifred TOMS, 20 years, spinster, no Rank or Profession. Residence at the time of Marriage. Darite, St. Cleer. Father's Name and Surname. Richard TOMS, deceased. Rank or Profession of Father. Tin miner.

Married in the Wesleyan Reform Chapel according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Wesleyan Reformers by Certificate by me, Jno G. Firth, Minister and William Fellow, Registrar. This Marrieage was solomnized between us, Wilfred Stanley Johns and Lilian Winifred Toms in the Presence of us, A. J. Phillips and A. G. Johns."

 

(Catherine Phillips Toms born ca. 1860 to John and Elizabeth Toms: According to gravestone I photographed on 27 May 2002, she died at 9 months old.

Is mother's maiden name Phillips? If so, is this Phillips family related to the Phillips above and Mrs. A. G. Phillips of Tremar Coombe listed in my grandma's address book of 1917?)

 

More About LILIAN WINIFRED "WIN" TOMS:

Emigration: Aft. 1910, Giroux, Lake Cobalt, Ontario, Canada

More About WILFRED STANLEY "STAN" JOHNS:

Occupation: Miner

Children of LILIAN TOMS and WILFRED JOHNS are:

i. CARL5 JOHNS, b. Abt. 1911.

ii. DOROTHY MARY JOHNS, b. 14 October 1913, Giroux, Lake Cobalt, Ontario, Canada; d. 14 October 1998, Mississauga, Ontario, Canada.

iii. LLOYD JOHNS, b. Abt. 1920.

5. FLORENCE "FLO" GERTRUDE4 TOMS (RICHARD3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1)8 was born 13 April 1896 in St. Cleer, Cornwall, England, and died 19 September 1951 in Detroit, Michigan, USA. She married HERMAN "HERM" HENRY ABEN 7 August 1915 in Virginia County?, Minnesota, USA. He was born 21 April 1893 in Lincoln Park or Allen Park, Michigan, USA9, and died 14 January 1985 in Michigan, USA10.

Notes for FLORENCE "FLO" GERTRUDE TOMS:

"Florence Toms Trebilcock and Herman "Herm" Aben were married either 1914-15. Winifred was born 7/7/1916 when mom was twenty. Married in Virginia, Minnesota.

The Trebilcock/Toms tried to book passage on the Titantic but it was full. They took another boat."

Flo and Herm eloped! Strict stepfather Samuel Pope Trebilcock wanted Flo to work for a habedasher - she did'nt.

Daughter Jean F. said her Mom Flo was proud to be a member of the "Wayne County Jurors Civic Association" (proof of membership: card no. 2260 dated Nov.-30-[19]44.´, signed by financial secretary Jo Barnhart.

Change of Address to 7030 Lexington confirmed by "Transfer of Registration" form C of D-2-CE B - a voting registration card for Ward 18, District 6A dated in July 1947.

More About FLORENCE "FLO" GERTRUDE TOMS:

Adoption: Bef. 1913, by stepdad Samuel Trebilcock

Residence: 13 April 1896, Railway Terrace, St. Cleer, Liskeard, CON

Notes for HERMAN "HERM" HENRY ABEN:

"Did you know Mom and Pop [Florence nee Toms aka Trebilcock and Herm Aben] eloped? It was 1914 and they didn't want her to marry a German. When her sister (Hilda nee Toms aka Trebilcock Johns) was killed, I was less than a year old. Mom to [took] me to Virginia with her to help her mother through a bad time. I took my first steps there. Also in the package are three letters that Pop sent to her while she was there."

Telephone number in Detroit 9, Michigan was VInewood 1-1681

Children of FLORENCE TOMS and HERMAN ABEN are:

i. WINIFRED "WINNIE" MARY5 ABEN, b. Bet. 6 - 7 July 1916, Detroit, Wayne County, Michigan, USA; d. 31 October 1995, Wixom?, Michigan, USA.

ii. ROBERT HERMAN "BOB" ABEN, b. 10 July 1918, Detroit, Michigan, USA; d. 28 October 1965, Detroit, Michigan, USA.

iii. DONALD ABEN11, b. Abt. 1920, Detroit, Michigan, USA; d. Abt. 1923, Detroit, Michigan, USA.

Notes for DONALD ABEN:

buried at Woodmere Cemetery Inc.; 9400 W Fort St.; Detroit, Michigan, Tel. (313) 841-0188 per sister Jean Florence Aben Pletcher. Same cemetery as Ludwig Aben and wife from Prussia, great grandparents.

 

iv. JEAN FLORENCE ABEN, b. aft 1910, Detroit, Michigan, USA; m. WILLIAM "BILL" VALENTINE PLETCHER, Bet. 30 May 1947 - 1948, Detroit?, Michigan, USA; b. aft 1910, Port Huron, Michigan, USA.

Notes for JEAN FLORENCE ABEN:

Subject: Re: DIRECTORIES

Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 16:36:40 EDT

From: RClark0250@

Hi Kathleen,

I know that Toledo has had a city directory for over 100 years and a lot of other cities do to. I just thought that cities or towns in Cornwall would have had the same thing. I gives a persons name, address and occupation. The reply I received was that some counties had them and Kelly's

Directory for Cornwall for 1883 is in the process of being published on CD. There are come in Truro library which can be photocopied. That is why I asked on the list. But so far, no one has answered. I too am new to this list. I have learned so much!

I think I have the info I need from the 1851 and 1881 census. Thanks.

Roxanna in Toledo, Ohio

 

Hi, Richard,

I don't know, but I suspect perhaps. My Cornish Mom is the only person who will eat one. She used to make one for Thanksgiving and Christmas, but

gave it up. We American children preferred pumpkin pie.

We also did not like her pasties, but now - 30 years later - I have acquired a taste for them and realize hers were the BEST!

Here is a sight with recipes:

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/Members/alan.richards/

Katie Meyers

Richard Ross wrote:

> Can anyone tell me if Minced Meat Pie is Cornish or where it

originated

> from?

>

> Richard

More About JEAN FLORENCE ABEN:

Baptism: Abt. 1948, Roman Catholic

Education: Abt. 1942, Western HS?; honor student

Occupation: Secretary bef. marriage and Kelly Girl (time firm)

More About WILLIAM "BILL" VALENTINE PLETCHER:

Baptism: Abt. 1946, Roman Catholic.

6. HILDA M.4 TOMS (RICHARD3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 4 December 1902 in Cornwall, England, and died 27 January 1925 in Virginia County, MN, USA. She married HAROLD JOHNS Abt. 1924 in Cobalt, Temiskaming District, Ontario, Canada?, son of SAMUEL JOHNS and MARY ?. He was born Abt. 1895 in Cornwall, England, and died 27 January 1925 in Virginia County, MN, USA.

Notes for HILDA M. TOMS:

Married Harold Johns, Wilfred Stanley "Stan"'s brother, who married Hilda's sister Lilian M. Toms.

Hilda and Harold lived in or near Cobalt, Temiskaming District, Ontario, Canada. This is near where Lilian and Stan Johns lived.

Hilda and Horace [Johns] had a bad marriage. She decided to get a divorce and move to Detroit. He shot her and commited suicide in front of son Jack (whom they had adopted?)

After death/suicide or parents, Annie nee Meech aka Toms Trebilcock and Sam adopted grandson Jack Johns.

More About HILDA M. TOMS:

Adoption: Bef. 1913, by stepdad Samuel Trebilcock

Notes for HAROLD JOHNS:

Lilian (Aunt Win) and Hilda [Toms/Trebilcock] married brothers [Johns]. Win and Alf [mistake: should be Stanley =Stan" Johns] raised a family in Timmins, Ontario, [Cochrane District] Canada and were married until his death from Black Lung Disease.

Child of HILDA TOMS and HAROLD JOHNS is:

i. JACK5 JOHNS, b. Abt. 18 December 1920, Timmons or Cobalt?, Ontario, Canada; d. Aft. December 1973, Virginia County, MN?, USA.

More About JACK JOHNS:

Adoption: Aft. 12 March 1909, Samuel Trebilcock - grandfather, Annie's second Husband.

 

Endnotes

1. GRO application # R004033: Marriage of son Richard #173, RO in the dirstrict of East Stonehouse, Devon..

2. Possibly John and St Cleer - CON St Cleer Ed. 6, Sched 208 in 1871 Cornwall Census?.

3. Christening on 5 Feb 1817 from www.familysearch.org, Film Batch number P007961, source 0962788 IT3, Printout 1145587.

4. GRO application # R004033: Marriage # 173,t RO in the dirstrict of East Stonehouse, Devon..

5. GRO application # R004033: Marriage # 173,t RO in the dirstrict of East Stonehouse, Devon., Witnesses John Roskilly and Elizabeth Roskilly. Residence of 25-yr-old Richard Toms 17 St Paul St., East Stonehouse. Residence of 21-yr-old Annie Roskilly Meech St. Cleer, Liskeard.

6. GRO Application R004033, Col 402; sub-district of Looe, Cornwall and 1871 Cornwall Census, Registered on 1 Nov 1866 by George Milton, Registrar.

7. Minnesota Death Certificate.

8. Birth Cert.: GRO Application R004033. Regist. Dist. Liskeard, Col 250; sub-district of Liskeard, Cornwall., Signed by Annie Roskilly TOms, mother, residence Railway Terrace, St. Cleer.Birth certificate registered on 26 May 1896 by Registrar William Hotten? Hooper..

9. Michigan Certificate of Death, State file # 0005594.

10. Michigan Certificate of Death, State file # 0005594, Allen Park Convalescent Home, Wayne County, Michigan, USA.

11. Burial in Woodmere Cemetery Inc.; 9400 W Fort St.; Detroit, Michigan, Tel. (313) 841-0188.